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rushmore (Reds GM)
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RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Jan 8, 2016 16:43:32 GMT -6

Post by rushmore (Reds GM) on Jan 8, 2016 16:43:32 GMT -6

Reds would like to formally offer a contract to Mr. Aroldis Chapman.

Chapman is an elite closer who is one of the few relief pitchers you would think about trying to resign in a league like this. The move to New York both hurts and helps his cause in a crowded bullpen. He has a possible suspension looming for 2016 on him because of domestic abuse (although unknown for the most part). He is a great fantasy asset and am willing to frontload his contract.

Similar player:
RP David Robertson $6,500,000 (2015 NTC) (2019)
Closer for NYY/CWS

Because of the overall volatility of the closer position i do not like signing these guys to long term deals so I have made a decision to frontload the contract...
Reds offer:
RP Aroldis Chapman $10,000,000 (2016 NTC) (2018)

I am taking a possible hit for 2016 because of the looming suspension but Mr Chapman is that good and we would like for him to continue to lead our bullpen and team to consecutive World Series appearances.

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RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Jan 8, 2016 16:58:59 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 16:58:59 GMT -6

Jan 8, 2016 16:43:32 GMT -6 rushmore (Reds GM) said:

Just a bit early on this as re-signs aren't open yet:

Re-Signs:
Open February 1, 2016 until February 15, 2016 @ 11:59 PM CST

themajorsleague.freeforums.net/thread/1592/offseason-schedule-2016?page=1&scrollTo=6213

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RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 13:39:26 GMT -6

Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 1, 2016 13:39:26 GMT -6

Past Closers:

David Robertson - $6.5 Mil
Glen Perkins - $6 Mil
Fernando Rodney - $5 Mil

While Chapman is one of the best not sure he needs to be paid $3.5 mil more than the previously highest paid closer. I need to look into this more before I vote.

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Braves GM (Isaiah) Current GM Posts: 1,649	RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 14:10:21 GMT -6 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Braves GM (Isaiah) on Feb 1, 2016 14:10:21 GMT -6 Veto #1 I think $10MM is too high for a closer. Personally, I'd look around the 7.5-8MM range.

Rockies GM (Joey) Administrator Posts: 8,340	RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 14:11:28 GMT -6 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 1, 2016 14:11:28 GMT -6 Yeah after reviewing I do think he needs to be paid more than the other re-signed closers but $10 mil is too much.
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RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 14:25:09 GMT -6

Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 14:25:09 GMT -6

Veto as well.

This may be the first veto for too much salary, but don't want to set an unreasonable standard that is going to throw the whole closer market out of whack. Closers are hard to come by, but $10m is too much IMO. Something like $8m seems about right.

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2016: 1st in AL Central 171-76-29, World Series Runner Up
2017: 1st in AL Central 161-97-18, ALDS runner up

White Sox GM (Jon) Ex-GMs Posts: 1,737	RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 14:26:19 GMT -6 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 14:26:19 GMT -6 Now you can give that two million to Cueto
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White Sox GM (Jon) Ex-GMs Posts: 1,737	RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3) Feb 1, 2016 15:14:53 GMT -6 Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 15:14:53 GMT -6 Please start another thread with second attempt. Thanks
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RP Aroldis Chapman (Vetoed 0-3)

Post by rushmore (Reds GM) on Jan 8, 2016 16:43:32 GMT -6

Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 16:58:59 GMT -6

Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 1, 2016 13:39:26 GMT -6

Post by Braves GM (Isaiah) on Feb 1, 2016 14:10:21 GMT -6

Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 1, 2016 14:11:28 GMT -6

Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 14:25:09 GMT -6

Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 14:26:19 GMT -6

Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 1, 2016 15:14:53 GMT -6

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