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Post by bluejaysgm on Feb 14, 2017 8:23:53 GMT -6
Last Contact: $14,000,000 (2016)
Offer: 3 Years @ $6,000,000
$6,000,000 (2017 NTC) (2019)
Using OF re-sign comps from this year. JD Martinez $9M and Trumbo $8M, he is clearly older than both, coming off a down season and projected lower than each. Brandon Moss re-signed for $6M, I realize he is not nearly the same player but he is 3 yrs younger. Bautista will be almost 39 years old at the end of this deal and his best days are already behind him.
A past comp at a similar age would be Curtis Granderson, $7,500,000. Both the same age, Bautista is the better player but Granderson's deal was from when he was 3 years younger than he is now.
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Post by White Sox GM (Jon) on Feb 14, 2017 12:39:58 GMT -6
This may be a little low, Moss clearly doesn't have the track record of Bautista. Moss's best season probably isn't even in Bautista's top 5-7 seasons. But I'm ok with this because of the age and appearance of some delcine starting. Moss and Granderson were both 3 years younger when they re-signed and are decent comps. Granderson was coming off a rough season, but had two 40+ HR seasons in the two seasons before that, so makes sense he's a bit higher at $7.5M. Moss is a decent comp, younger but less recent production. You could see Bautista moving to DH at some point during this deal too which may decrease his value if that happens.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2017 16:41:30 GMT -6
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Not sure I totally understand the Bautista/Moss comp.
For 2016 (Bautista's down year) Fantrax ranked Bautista as the #56 outfielder. Moss was close at #60. However for 2017 Fantrax projects Bautista at #28 and Moss at #96. Also Fantrax project Bautista with 495 at bats in 2017 and only 376 for Moss. The lefthanded Moss is only projected to be the better half of a platoon situation whereas Bautista projects to be a full time player.
On the Granderson comp, it was 7.5M but it was for 4 years not 3. That contract covered Granderson's age 33, 34, 35 & 36 seasons. A 3 year deal for Bautista will cover his age 36, 37 & 38 seasons. Also when Granderson was resigned here prior to the 2014 season, he was coming off a down season of 61 games played, .229 avg, 7 hr, 15 rbi.
I understand the age concern which is why the 3 year deal makes sense versus the 4 or 5 years. However as a projected full time player, I see him closer to Granderson than I do to Moss.
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 14, 2017 22:12:01 GMT -6
fantrax is projecting him to bounce back .244/.843 30 87 5. Need closer to Granderson money here.
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Post by Dodgers GM (Jerry) on Feb 14, 2017 22:26:51 GMT -6
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