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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 9, 2018 23:53:19 GMT -6
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 9, 2018 23:55:05 GMT -6
I would have a scale. Maybe 15% reduction for players aged 31-32, 20% 33-34 and 25% 35+ Not sure I agree with that. Most re-signed guys are late 20s/early 30s they are already getting a built in discount by being re-signed as it is. |
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Post by Pirates GM (Mike S.) on Feb 9, 2018 23:56:12 GMT -6
So a player at 34 and 11 months is not covered? I proposed an age scale.
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 10, 2018 0:00:53 GMT -6
So a player at 34 and 11 months is not covered? I proposed an age scale. Honestly if his age is that huge of a concern is he really worth re-signing anyway? Something to consider. I don't think its worth having a bunch of different age groupings your already getting a discount in essence. But if others feel differently then they have a few days to express it I personally would be against it. Now if you think 35 is too high that is another conversation but I am against having 3 different scales but I am also just one person with one voice. |
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Post by Pirates GM (Mike S.) on Feb 10, 2018 0:06:04 GMT -6
Age is a contract factor in MLB. Probably more so for SP.
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 10, 2018 0:12:24 GMT -6
Age is a contract factor in MLB. Probably more so for SP. You don't have to send them to re-sign they are already being given a discount by doing so I don't think they should get more of a discount just b/c they are not 25-28 personally but instead 31-34. You clearly disagree and that is fine. Really nothing left for either of us to say just have to see what others think. |
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Post by Giants on Feb 10, 2018 0:20:52 GMT -6
I'm fine with the way it is currently. I don't think an additional scale is necessary since the length of the deal is still the owner's discretion.
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Post by Brew Crew GM - Tyler on Feb 10, 2018 9:08:34 GMT -6
Personally I would rather not change the rule but I’m clearly in the minority there. I like the idea of comps and trying to determine fair value. Are contracts bad sometimes? Yes. But they are that way in the MLB too.
As far as Rangers point this definitely needs to be considered. Seems like the mid tier guys will now be overpriced.
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Post by PadresGM on Feb 10, 2018 10:09:06 GMT -6
Personally, I actually sord of like a low disparity level between elite guys and solid guys. I think it really provides an incentive to use the re-signs on your elite players rather than the solid guys. It makes the elite guys even more valuable compared with the solid guys, something we see occur in real life where teams are very tied to their stars, but are liquid in moving the solid guys around. Of course, a team can re-sign a solid player, but they may not have as much incentive to do so, which will most likely result in an increased amount of trades and more of those guys entering free agency, ultimately increasing league activity
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 10, 2018 10:47:33 GMT -6
Personally I would rather not change the rule but I’m clearly in the minority there. I like the idea of comps and trying to determine fair value. Are contracts bad sometimes? Yes. But they are that way in the MLB too. As far as Rangers point this definitely needs to be considered. Seems like the mid tier guys will now be overpriced. Honestly mid-tier guys really shouldn't be getting re-signed anyway you should really only be re-signing your core star guys IMO. |
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 10, 2018 10:48:23 GMT -6
Personally, I actually sord of like a low disparity level between elite guys and solid guys. I think it really provides an incentive to use the re-signs on your elite players rather than the solid guys. It makes the elite guys even more valuable compared with the solid guys, something we see occur in real life where teams are very tied to their stars, but are liquid in moving the solid guys around. Of course, a team can re-sign a solid player, but they may not have as much incentive to do so, which will most likely result in an increased amount of trades and more of those guys entering free agency, ultimately increasing league activity or this. |
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Post by Brew Crew GM - Tyler on Feb 10, 2018 10:55:39 GMT -6
Mid tier guys are super important to a successful team. Especially those with flexibility like a Zobrist or Marwin Gonzalez who I may resign this year. Plus a solid SP who isn’t dominant like a Lance Lynn might be a guy to resign as someone you can count on for consistency. But if the price is too steep then it’s not going to make as much sense to try to keep them. And if the point of this is to make guys resign fewer players then so be it. Just something that I’m thinking about.
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Post by Rockies GM (Joey) on Feb 10, 2018 11:41:48 GMT -6
Mid tier guys are super important to a successful team. Especially those with flexibility like a Zobrist or Marwin Gonzalez who I may resign this year. Plus a solid SP who isn’t dominant like a Lance Lynn might be a guy to resign as someone you can count on for consistency. But if the price is too steep then it’s not going to make as much sense to try to keep them. And if the point of this is to make guys resign fewer players then so be it. Just something that I’m thinking about. To me re-sign purpose was never for guys like you mentioned it was for teams to keep their studs at a discount price. Again just what I think not everyone thinks the same I am sure. |
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Post by Brew Crew GM - Tyler on Feb 10, 2018 11:43:36 GMT -6
I hear you. Everyone has their own opinions about who is worth keeping.
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Post by Dodgers GM (Jerry) on Feb 10, 2018 11:59:46 GMT -6
There is a reduction of 25% of calculated salary if the player is or turns 35 before the season starts.
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